Does Mjol need to be toned?

[Odinn]

If you feel Mjol needs to be toned, please place your idea/suggestions here.

[Iblis]

Simple answer: Yes.

I feel that weave needs to be adjusted, and then, possibly, rune-ring too.

I wouldn\'t feel that both should be done simultaneously however - might be better to do weave first, and see how it is and then progress from there.

-Iblis.

[Serenity]

I do not believe that the mjol is op, I do believe that mjols when paired with some races can become op... that said a tone would have more of a detremental affect on those who choose not to go one of the races.

[Iblis]

Nods, I thought so too, but as has been demonstrated, even halving the strength on oji provides for a better weave.

The problem isn\'t races, it\'s weave.

[Odinn]

Iblis wrote:

Nods, I thought so too, but as has been demonstrated, even halving the strength on oji provides for a better weave.

The problem isn\'t races, it\'s weave.

Agreed- I don\'t really understand the point of weave lasting as long as it does. Why not just put it back on the old prevent? That would be a huge difference- without crippling them.

We don\'t want to cripple any classes, we want to bring them down to where they have their great strengths, but to where they are not the end all.

[mage...]

I find it hard to understand how people who play obviously overpowered classes can\'t see it.

Yes Wizards need toning, I would suggest a tone to weaves stats and leave the duration intact, as the !flee that is effectively created from the insane +agi is still going to be an issue on a shorter prevent. I would probably like to see rune rings base power lowered as well, but I guess it would make sense to do these changes one at a time so see what the affect is.

Wizards currently fill the role of one of the strongest classes in both running rates and player killing power, and they don\'t even need insane pracs to achieve this. That is blatantly overpowered.

In regards to toning of Oji +str creating a better weave, that isn\'t really true, the loss of +con has increased the prevent on vefr, meaning that combined with the loss in damage it was defiantly a tone and not a buff. That said, I still think they need further toning as I have mentioned above.

-mage

[Odinn]

mage... wrote:

I find it hard to understand how people who play obviously overpowered classes can\'t see it.

Yes Wizards need toning, I would suggest a tone to weaves stats and leave the duration intact, as the !flee that is effectively created from the insane +agi is still going to be an issue on a shorter prevent. I would probably like to see rune rings base power lowered as well, but I guess it would make sense to do these changes one at a time so see what the affect is.

Wizards currently fill the role of one of the strongest classes in both running rates and player killing power, and they don\'t even need insane pracs to achieve this. That is blatantly overpowered.

In regards to toning of Oji +str creating a better weave, that isn\'t really true, the loss of +con has increased the prevent on vefr, meaning that combined with the loss in damage it was defiantly a tone and not a buff. That said, I still think they need further toning as I have mentioned above.

-mage

Well said. You get a plus karma!

[Zol]

yes and ummm...... yes?

[Eicile]

Yeah I think they need toning, wave lasts too long and the rune-ring is OP

[Torment]

if you think rune-ring is OP take a look at chaos star at 250% The same damage with twice the lag, a fighter doing that kinda massive damage is clearly OP, if your a fighter and you aren't a maruader then you are WRONG!!